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RE: orion: Scholars and Others [was: Altman and Crowder]
How would you "classify" for example Professor Eisenman on
the one hand and Allegro on the other.
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From: Tim L Phillips [SMTP:tiphillips@InfoAve.Net]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 1997 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: orion: Scholars and Others [was: Altman and
Nichael, Paul, and Next,
Nichael- actually I did have a bad experience with the guy
on the bus who did
a horrible job. And I take you don't want to hear my
rebuttals to Einstein...
Paul- I really wasn't accusing anyone of elitism! And you
did exactly what I
wanted. I am familiar with the processes you outlined but I
thought a good
reminder was in order. Yet, I do think that more of (us)
"day job" guys are
getting closer to making real or noticeable contributions
(them, not me ;^)
)...because of what we are now doing.
That was what the last bit was about, and trying to get a
"an expansion of (any) intellectual community (them, not
me)" due to
"Internet" type tools. At least the discussions don't stay
in the office. (I
would have much preferred that my old history prof call me
a twit in an
e-mail, or "netmeeting" without me having to drive 200
miles!) I'm a teacher
in a public school (my degree was terminal) and I can't
help to wonder about
academics, scholarship, and the Net.
Nichael Cramer wrote:
> Tim L Phillips wrote:
> > If "scholarship" occurs outside of a university setting
is it still
> > "scholarship" and how valued will it be by those in
that setting if it
> > originates outside that setting?
> I think the point, to be fair is, is not that it is
_impossible_ for such
> serious scholarship to appear outside of a standard
> It's just --frankly-- that the odds go way, way down.
> Several folks here have already invoked the myth of
> by the proverbial lone genius, without credentials
working in splendid
> isolation. To the extent that such things actually
occur, its worth
> pointing out that for every one of those guys there are
> cranks pushing their trisections of angles, alternate
versions of General
> Relativity or some other pet theory that could be shown
to be gibberish
> by any first year grad student in the field.
> In short, there really _are_ credentially, competent
people working in
> these disciplines and the overwhelming majority are found
in exactly the
> places where you would expect to find them.
> To ask a slightly silly version of this question, would
you let the
> stranger sitting next to you on the bus home tonight take
> appendix? Why not? She _might_ be the world's greatest
surgeon, who just
> happened not to go to medical school. What do you know?
> Nichael Cramer
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