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Re: orion-list Re: self-definition

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I follow more Maier's scepticim to mix up unseen the research on 'Essene'
sources and on the 'Qumranite' texts *before* we have a clear idea of both.
Remember Josephus' political intentions; moreover, sometimes he lies...
And Pliny? He wrote in the good old days when it was impossible for Rome to
decide between Jewish, Jewish-Hellenistic and Hellenistic groups with
similar religious programs.



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