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Re: orion HIPPOLYTUS: THE ESSENE TEXT (fwd)
Has anyone investigated the possible line from some sort of early Judaism
through Elxai to Mani on this matter. Mani's attitudes to living things
might be understandable not only in terms of Persian backgrounds, but also
with reference to some "Jewish Christian" scruples that might be reflected
in Hippolytus' account.
Bob
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Forwarded message:
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:49:04 -0400
> From: george.x.brooks@juno.com (George Brooks)
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if this belief had some source in Persian, say
> from some part of the Magi or Zoroastrian systems. Zoroaster felt that
> all life was so precious, he either advocated vegetarianism, or he felt
> that there would be no meat-eating in the afterlife.
>
> George Brooks (813) 886-9643
>
> On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 14:43:32 -0400 "T. L. Phillips"
> <tiphillips@infoave.net> writes:
> >Forgive me for snipping this post to death. But reading it two points (below)
> >from Hippolytus struck me. What are the sources of his belief that Jews
> >believe all creation is animate with sensation? Was there really such
> >a belief?
> >
> >Tim Phillips
> >
> >George Brooks wrote:
> >
> >HIPPOLYTUS OF ROME
> >> THE REFUTATION OF ALL HERESIES
> >> BOOK IX.
> >
> >[SNIP]...
> >
> >> ...He did create. And (they maintain) that there are angels, and
> >that these
> >> have been brought into being for ministering unto the creation; but
> >also
> >> that there is a sovereign Spirit that always
> >> continues beside God, for glory and praise. And that all things in
> >the
> >> creation are endued with sensation, and that there is nothing
> >inanimate.
> >> ...[SNIP]...
> >
> >> ...END OF EXCERPT