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Re: orion Stephen Goranson & Josephus

At 22:53 22/07/97 -0500, Jack Kilmon wrote:
>even the most reasoned speculation is still opinion.

Non sequitur.  Reasoning is neither opinion nor speculation.  Your assertion
is unfounded and self-contradicting.

>Along come the putative Essenes who wear the white hats...er...robes..and
>they are perceived to be more like us Christians than "dem durn Pharisees
>and Sadducees."

Perceived to be more like 'you Christians' by whom?  Based on what?  This is
something which needs to be demonstrated, not assumed.  The sine qua non of
Christianity, and proto-Christianity, was selective observance of Torah as
contrasted with observance of the entirety of Torah (including Torah
sheba'al peh) by legitimate Judaism as defined by the Beyt Din Ha-Gadol.  If
there is evidence that the Essenes were tolerant of selective observance of
Torah, the necessary ingredient characteristic of Christianity and
proto-Christianity, I don't recall having seen it presented.
Yirmiyahu Ben-David
Paqid 16, Qehilat Ha-Netzarim (Nazarene Jews)
Ra'anana, Israel